Jim Sain

Central High School

Class of 1967

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Jim Sain - Class of 1967 - Central High School

First Name	Jim
Last Name	Sain
Graduation Year	Class of 1967
Gender	Male
Hometown	Manchester, Tennessee
Relationship Status	Married
About Me	PLEASE EXCUSE THE GRAMMER AND MISSPELLINGS History of JAMES J SAIN Born April 21,1949 in Niles, Mich. Moved to Summitville , Tn in the 50's to a farm my father bought during depression Father Tad Sain born in 1901 , birth name- Andrew Jackson Sain, he changed name to Tad Mother Pauline (Daker) Sain born 1919 My parents met in Chicago in the 40's , married and had 4 boys. John Hubert Sain Larry Eugene Sain Richard Tad Sain James J Sain My father Tad Sain was a share cropper in Tn., they were very poor and lived in log cabin and would here him and his older brother POLK SAIN, say they would wake to snow on the bed in morning. My father had a child with a Cherrokee girl named Susie . The daughter was named Evelyn G. Sain Evelyn was born Mar. 25, 1922 later she married Abraham Lincoln Brown. Tad Sain moved to Mich , I assume ,after the birth because of color gender. Evelyn married Mr. Abraham Lincoln Brown , a black man. I was unaware of sister until a postal lady in Tn. told my oldest brother we had a sister and he told me, anyway I wrote a long letter to her and gave it to the postal lady and told her I wanted to meet her Sadly the postal lady never gave her letter and she had an accident and died . My brother John told me he found out from postal lady that she died and so I told my brother I wanted to meet my sister My brother John and I attend the funeral and was welcomed with open arms by the immediate family and then the story was out. I was so suprised that so many people and family knew about our sister , but never told us . My father after moving to the north for work , became very successful in the Heavy const work in Chicago in 20's and 30's he was involved alot with the Roaring 20's and the well know gangster years of Chicago My father had land reciepts in his safety deposit box for land ownership in Teesville , Ill. and when I checked on the reciepts and called the Cook county , Chicago , I was told that Teesville was a community run by gangster and flop houses at that time and later was taken back by the community and that the reciepts were worthless !!! My father purchased land in Tn. with the money he made in Chicago. Tad Sain met and married Pauline Daker in Chicago around the 1940's Pauline was born and raised in the Dakota's then moved to the Ill. because farming ceased due to the dust bowl and depression. Pauline was married to a young man in the Dakota's for a short time and died . My mother became a stay at home wife after marrying Tad and had 4 boys. We moved to Tn in the 50's to a farm that was nothing but trees and undeveloped land . Tad continued to work in Elkart , Ill. up untl the 1960's , he would commute back and forth driving all the way from Mich to Tn after work and would get out of vehicle and start to work on farm . He would work all weekend get in his vehicle drive 5oo miles on old 2 lane roads back to work. He often would say he drove threw many a stop sign and city without stopping because he was asleep driving. My mother was an angel sent from heaven to care for us 4 boys in Tn. while our father worked up North, she was a one of a kind person, very caring and kind to her boys and she never complained . She worked from morning till bedtime cooking, cleaning , house keeping , outside chores making clothes with sewing machine and all cooking was done the old way making butter , rendering lard , milking cows and having your beef and pork killed and put in freezer We had a smoke house to put our ham's in to sugar cure and they were really good. Mother made the best PIE , everyone asked for pie when there was a get together , we ate like royalty, but only because of my mother GREAT cooking. Pauline was a very religious and kind person never , ever saying a cross or curse work. She always saw the best in everyone and was always identified as Pauline and her 4 boys. Eventually my father retired and moved to Tn to begin getting the farm in shape and did he ever. The fun and games were over for us boys, because my dad really made you tow the line from morning till night. He treated us alot like we were his employees. He was not gentle and comforting like our Mom , he cursed us alot and nothing could be done fast enough we alway had to run when he told us to get something and told us if you are not working you better at least look like you are working. My brothers and I worked until we graduated high school and all went in Military, this was a vacation for us. Anyway back to the story we had to clean new ground grubbing bushes and roots for a number of years , we would be out working in the fields and we would see friends in the summer drive by on highway going to have fun . We were not in activities in school because we had to work the farm and took off during planting and crop season , the life was hard and rough , but I am forever grateful for my upbringing and my GREAT parents My brother John joined the Marine Corps in the 60's got out went into National Gaurd , served in Desert Storm and retired from Military. John still lives in Tn and Ga. , he has a farm in Tn and another home in Atlanta, Ga. John is married to his second wife Kim and enjoys working and staying busy. Larry moved to Mich after military and never went back, he joined the Airforce and lived the life of leisure in Greece before getting out and working in Indiana , he met his wife Mickey and they fell in Love and still madly in love live together in Elkhart , In. They now have the good life, big family , travel and fun together.They spend the winter in Fla. Mickey made a good man out of him , because he was pretty wild before meeting her, I will not go into details. Richard went into the Airforce soon after school and went to Airforce base in Siagon, Vietnam working on aircraft. He was married to Bonnie an Airforce( brat),another word for military dependants. They lived in Ga. on a farm then divorced and he moved to Tn. and bought a bar in Manchester . He married his second wife Susie and they still live in Tn. he is now retired in Tullahoma, Tn. Myself , well I moved to Michigan after high school and found work at French's Paper mill in Niles, Mi., and worked at night from 11-7am then a friend Wayne Clements on night shift started doing tree work and ask if I would like to help , so we would work at night and work all day then sleep a little during the day and start all over , everything was fine until I got a draft notice from the Army and I thought I better do something so I joined the Naval Reserves in Benton Harbor , Mi. and thought I was safe until the police woke me one morning at my apartment and told me I was going to jail for dodging the draft. I was finally able to prove and explained I had joined the Navy. Everything was going pretty good working two jobs , going to Reserve meetings and even meeting a girl in Michigan working at a diner while she was in high school. I was Mr. Cool, plenty of money and I would leave her nice tips and play the song ( Look away Renee) on the juke box. We dated and married in 1971 , I was in the Navy in Guam Naval Hospital , a friend and I made dare to volunteer for Vietnam and needless to say we were off and gone in 2 wks. Renee and I decided to marry before I went to Vietnam and we had a wedding that will never be forgotten by those who attended. Nothing worse a Hillbilly marrying a city girl from the North and then to have cousins come from Tn. I still think Betty Nelson my mother in law would have choked me if it were not forgiving husband Wayne. He treated me just like a son, and we still stay in contact . I went to Camp Pendleton, Calif. after marrying for Field Medical School and Renee came to Calif. and stayed in motel while I was out in the field training. She once called while I was in the field a senior instructor said how in the Hell did your wife get you out here I was talking on a walkie talkie radio. We did not get to spend much time together , but we made the most of the time, finally she went home and I went to Vietnam. When I arrived at Danang , Vietnam my buddy that I volunteered with said lets go with Marine Corps Recon,well dummy me said OK. We were sent to the Recon division in Danang and upon joining they asked if we were married and I said, yes and was told they would not let me volunteer for Recon. I went to Bravo 1/5 field unit and my buddy stayed with Recon, we stayed in touch until he was killed during a spy rigging operation , the helicopter rope ladder with Recon squad hit a mountain and all were Killed. I lost my buddy , but I was staying pretty busy myself out in the field with the Bravo Bushmasters after enemy , Vietcong, NVA and terrorist. Life was short and you could not worry about death because you were too busy trying to stay alive. We would be sent out in Helicopters from Danang to another LZ or( Landing Zone) before being dropped in an enemy location. I remember landing at LZ Baldy many times and the Army would be there with all there new equipment and we would steal from them , because the Marines had very little and their weapons and gear was irreplaceble and you did not get new stuff like the Army. I became very close to my Marine buddies, because they looked out for Doc. We would go out for 30 days then come in for a few days to get drunk and fill your belly with good food , I will never forget as we flew back into Danang we would have Lobster, steaks and Booze. I really Loved that, the base had a shack they called the Peons Palace which we bought beer by the case and drank until we usually passed out or started fighting , Never understood why we came from the field and would set off CS gas gernades, I used to sleep in a body bag at Hill 53 or rear base and my buddies zipped me up when I felll asleep drunk, anyway body bags donot have zippers inside and they put me in the shower, finally someone let me out. We had our groups in Vietnam , the druggies, the drunks, the hippies and the blacks/hispanics, but when in the field everyone was Green, we took care of each other when s... hit the fan. I lost alot of friends, but while there you tried not getting too close because you did not know if you would see them again. My Best and still Vietnam buddies are: Nicholas Bokas (Radioman) and Steve Wolfe (Point man), we still stay in touch. My worst experience was after overtaking an enemy base camp, we did a search of camp and one young Lcpl Kenneth James Wagner , tripped an antipersonnel mine and was killed. I will not go into details , but if you go on the Vietnam Memorial Wall dedications you can see what I wrote and left for the family. It was so sad , because he was due to leave Vietnam and tour . I will never forget the horrible Monsoon , it's true the rain came from everywhere . you could put your canteen cup out and fill it with rain water. We were wet 24/7 and I've never been colder than Vietnam , we would pee in our pants to get warm and would wrap up in poncho and liner then find a good mud hole to lay in during ambushes , Killer teams , and Listening post. I finally survived my time in the field and was tranferred to Danang base field hospital , there the staff felt so sorry for me, because of my field duty did not make me work , so I had Great time before I left Vietnam, drinking , going to Danang , I even had Momma Son to take care of my washing and etc. until I finally left and came back to the US. Boy was I ever surprised, I was sent to Okinawa to pick up my clothes before going to Calif. and I told the Marines to keep my clothes, so I left and was greeted by Hippie protestors in Calif. , they called me alot of bad names , spit on me , called me a Baby Killer and wished me dead. Well as soon as I got to the base in Calif., they tried to get me to reenlist and I said NO THANK YOU, I even had a jungle dermitis all over my body when I got back and I told the Miltary I would check with the VA for medical, just let me leave NOW ! I went back to Michigan started work in Aluminum Plant , then went to work for the VA Hospital in Ann Arbor, Michigan where I worked as an Orthopedic Technician for a few years until I went to College in Chattanooga , Tn for Orthopaedic PA. I took a job at Pavilion Orthopedics in Springfield Ma. and Hated ever moment I was there, especially Dr. Rosenthal , I finally called my brother John in Tn., and told him if he could get me a job in Tn. , he found an Orthopod in Murfreesboro, Tn looking for an assistant , well needless to say I told Rosenthal to Kiss my A.. and I headed south. I enjoyed my work in Tn. , staying busy working during the day for Dr. Heffington and working at night for the hospital . I would get off work at the hospital and sleep in the car till clinic opened. Renee and I some how managed to have 2 wonderful children while in Murfreesboro , Douglas and Stephanie what a joy , I will never forget Douglas running our only car the Duster into the house . No one hurt except the car. Life was really busy and the Dr. asked me one day would I be interested in going back into Navy. Well you know me I said let go so , he was sent to Yokuska, Japan and while I was still in Virginia waiting orders , I got a request to come to Japan. Well now I really enjoyed the news and went to Japan and soon after Renee and the children came. We live off base in Japan in a typical old fashion house with Tatamy mats, no shoes in the house , kerosene heater, but we had our own hot tub, and also slept on the floor in a fouton . Supposedly there was a big snake in the house for rodent control and we were not allowed to kill it , I never saw it but could swear I heard it moving . We finally were move to Naghi Hgts a military housing community near the beach in Japan. We had some really good times there, Douglas and Stephnie would leave in the morning and go to the beach by themselves and come home with stuff the Japanese people would give them. Renee's , mother and father visited us in Japan while on there world tour and we had great time . I will never forget the time when we were in the house on night and a hurricane or tyhoon blew the roof off the house , Renee and I was lookin at the midnight sky. I stayed busy working at the Naval hospital , and drove taxi after work and taught Conversational English to Japanese, payed really good money. I got another job with the base recreation and climbed Mt. Fuji numerous times as the medical guide for the tour. My worse and I'm sure Renee's worse memory was the time when at a large department store in Yokohama , Douglas and Stephanie disappeared and we were frantic because there was thousands of people and multiple floors. We did not know what to do and finally went to the local police station where they were taken by the Japanese people. I will never forget I left a camera on the train once and went back a few days later and it was still sitting in the seat. The Japanese are the kindest, and most trusting people anywhere. I met a Japanese doctor and his family , which were students of mine and he took me to Kabuki theater and at his house he put me in an ancient Samuri suit and had a tradition Tea ceremony for me. Dr. Heffngton and I were still together at the Orthopedic clinic and he was court martial and sent to Levenworth prison , I did my time and went to Camp Lejune, NC . I was finally home back with the Marines, I did numerous tours while there , from a 6 month Westpac float ,6month Med float , stationed with 2/2 , Amtraks, and the 24th MAU. I was really enjoying my travel and the military which is hard on family and it took my family as well , Renee and Iwere divorced in NC and I volunteered and left on another 6 month float. The Navy demanded I come back to them and I was sent to Washington DC in charge of the clinic , I was always volunteering to go anywhere, almost got to go to Antartic , but ended up getting out , because I wanted to travel. I moved to Roanoke, Va. and married Debby Painter where my lose for the military returned and I joined the USNR , I spent most of my time with the 4th Mar Engineers as Chief Hospital corpsman and I got to go above the Arctic circle to Norway. I finally retired in 1996. Presently I am retired and have a home in the Blueridge mountains next to the New River , 3 miles on private gravel road to main gravel road, 44 mi. to the nearest Walm...(read more)